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Is there an alternate word processor?

schwitz
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January 01, 2008, 12:26:00 PM

The write activity has been giving me problems and I was wondering if there were any other options so far as to what I could use.

Also, would upgrading fix this problem? I've been hesitant to do this but I may consider it if it meant Write would work better.

Thanks.
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#1 Re: Is there an alternate word processor?

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January 01, 2008, 12:41:24 PM

You can open full-featured Abiword window by adding some modifications to a Write activity file as I wrote in http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=41.msg5536#msg5536

Please try:

1. Open Terminal activity.
2. Type su
3. cd /usr/share/activities/Write.activity
4. mv keybindings.xml keybindings.xml.orig
5. Start Write activity.
6. Press Ctrl-N

If you like to restore the original settings, you can move keybinding.xml.orig file back to keybinding.xml.

Tami (Masaaki) Takamiya
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#2 Re: Is there an alternate word processor?

dbradac
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January 22, 2008, 02:34:51 PM

Thanks so much for these instructions. It is great to have access to the full-featured Abiword
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#3 Re: Is there an alternate word processor?

punmaster
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January 29, 2008, 03:46:05 PM

I have used the method above to access the full version of AbiWord and am very pleased. Still, I was wondering if it were possible to invoke the full verson directly from the console. Thank you.  Smiley
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Gabey8
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January 29, 2008, 06:22:57 PM

You can open full-featured Abiword window by adding some modifications to a Write activity file as I wrote in http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=41.msg5536#msg5536

Please try:

1. Open Terminal activity.
2. Type su
3. cd /usr/share/activities/Write.activity
4. mv keybindings.xml keybindings.xml.orig
5. Start Write activity.
6. Press Ctrl-N

If you like to restore the original settings, you can move keybinding.xml.orig file back to keybinding.xml.

Tami (Masaaki) Takamiya

My only regret is not trying this sooner. Smiley Thanks for the instructions.

BTW, for those who haven't tried this yet: the CTRL-N will open a new activity that looks like a grey dot in the donut. That one is the Abiword activity.
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#5 Re: Is there an alternate word processor?

punmaster
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January 29, 2008, 07:13:29 PM

I asked my question above hoping to get the command to directly load the full AbiWord, so that I could use "LibSugarize" to add a second icon to the activity bar that goes directly to the full version of AbiWord. I've seen something in the "yum" thread about installing a new copy of AbiWord to accomplish this, but I've heard that this breaks the normal Write activity, something I do not want to do. Does any of this make sense? Am I being too picky? Sorry for the weird question. Thank you.  Smiley
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sambot
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February 13, 2008, 03:30:38 PM

2. Type su 

What is the difference between su and su -  (su dash) and sudo for logging into the Terminal? I've seen different instructions and I never know which one I should be using to login. Thanks for answering a probably simple (dumb) question.
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bleed
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February 13, 2008, 06:58:45 PM

2. Type su 

What is the difference between su and su -  (su dash) and sudo for logging into the Terminal? I've seen different instructions and I never know which one I should be using to login. Thanks for answering a probably simple (dumb) question.

[olpc@xo-11-28-64 ~]$ su
Password: *******
bash-3.2# echo $PATH
/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/home/olpc/bin
bash-3.2# pwd
/home/olpc
bash-3.2# exit

[olpc@xo-11-28-64 ~]$ su -
Password: ******
-bash-3.2# echo $PATH
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
-bash-3.2# pwd
/root
-bash-3.2#


su - <- dash is an option that  "Provides an environment similar to what the user would expect had the user logged in directly." In general it sets up all the shell enviroments such as the PATH, and changes you into the root's home path (/root). Personally I find this more convenient, especially if commands are located in /usr/local/sbin  or even /sbin folders. For example with the command iwconfig, I can simply type iwconfig and be able to execute it. The iwconfig is located in the /sbin folder, and since the /sbin folder is part of the PATH, it knows to search for the command there and run it.

su without the dash, you become root as well but you keep your current user's (olpc) environment. As you can see the olpc user's PATH above, shown by the pwd command does not include /sbin or /usr/local/sbin in its PATH to search for the command. Back to the iwconfig command, here you'll need to type in the full PATH to execute the iwconfig command:

     [olpc@xo-11-28-64 sbin]$ /sbin/iwconfig

I hope this helps.

I think there is a general "rule" though, especially when you are root, to type out the commands in their full PATH, just to be on the safe side, and that you  are sure to be running the exact command.
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#8 Re: Is there an alternate word processor?

enon
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March 28, 2008, 09:27:32 AM

the short version of Bleed's response:
su gives you admin rights, but your still a normal user
su - turns you into the admin

point of fact:
users and admins have access to different programs and tools.  Users can't do a lot of the admin stuff
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enon
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March 28, 2008, 09:29:43 AM

Here's a question:
can you just change the launch path in the activity icon to call the full version of AbiWord or a script that starts the full verison? 

That would leave the original in tact AND allow for the full version to be used.  right?
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#10 Re: Is there an alternate word processor?

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March 28, 2008, 10:48:21 AM

Here's a question:
can you just change the launch path in the activity icon to call the full version of AbiWord or a script that starts the full verison? 

That would leave the original in tact AND allow for the full version to be used.  right?

Simple, just install the full version of AbiWord separately and sugarize it with your desired icon. 
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#11 Re: Is there an alternate word processor?

enon
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March 29, 2008, 01:06:39 PM

wouldn't installing the full version break the 'share' part of AbiWord thats working on the simplified version that's included on the XO by default?  The idea would be allowing a user to flip flop between the the full version and the XO version.. or does 'sugarizing' an application make it sharable with other XO's? 

having never had another XO to play with, this function is a bit of a mystery to me still.

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#12 abiword no longer started by control n after upgrading to 711

winklaus
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August 26, 2008, 05:11:39 AM

i have upgraded to 711, where the activities have to be installed separately. then i tried to move the so called key bindings according to the workaround described above and which i have described in more detail here: posting.php?mode=quote&f=17&p=536764.

but that does not work, i guess that is because of the new built with the separation of the activities and the OS. when i type in the commands from the work around "terminal" answers me: no such file or directory".

could someone with a better understanding of linux than me explain us how to move the keybindings now (in a step to step tutorial, as in the work around?) with the new upgrade 711

thanks

klaus
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#13 Re: Is there an alternate word processor?

davewa
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August 26, 2008, 06:30:25 AM

The trick still works, but the keybindings file is installed in a different directory.  (I'm not near my XO so I can't tell you exactly where, sorry.)
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#14 Re: Is there an alternate word processor?

mavrothal
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August 26, 2008, 06:43:32 AM

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but that does not work, i guess that is because of the new built with the separation of the activities and the OS. when i type in the commands from the work around "terminal" answers me: no such file or directory".

Type
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cd Activities/Write.activity
Activities are now in the Activities directory in the home directory (eg /home/olpc)
You do not need to type the full path if you go to a sub-directory of where you are.
In general use pwd to see where you are ans ls or ls -a to see what's in there.
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